Edit: I realize that not everyone will agree with me on these things, and that doesn't bother me, I don't expect that we ever will fully come to a 100% consensus on what happened at the beginning of the creation of Earth, even in Christian communities. I wish we all could but we won't. However something critical to every Christian is this...know what you believe and why you believe it commit to a firm belief that can only be shaken if God gives you proof otherwise....for my reasoning on saying this...stay tuned for my next blog.Hey,
Thought the subject line really fit the topic. lol. Anyways, I'm not seeking to start a debate, I have no real interest in a debate, these are my thoughts and reasons behind the thoughts...the more I seek answers on this topic the more convinced I am of my position and I will not be swayed on it, (and don't think of it as ignorance or standard reaction of a christian, or creationist...I've actually put thought into this and considered both sides even talked to people I respect about them (and yes some were pastors who have creationistic views but you can't hold a bias because of that)) Ok, that being said...first off I want to state that I do think it matters...this is a personal assertion and I am not sure scripturally if there is a basis for it or not...however I do believe with all that I have in me that it matters whether the earth was created in 6 days or 45 million years even though neither option discredits a creator.
Now here are the things that have strengthened my opinion/faith on this issue....
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning -- the first day. Genesis 1:1-5Ok so this first part, since we're talking about creation and the Bible is the account that we're really dealing with, this was my number one source to turn to. I've been praying a lot about this issue and this first section really began to stand out...look at what God did here...he created the constructs of time. It's not a metaphorical, poetical, similitical or any other allusion to light and dark...it's real, day-and-night-light-and-dark-time-to-get-up-time-to-sleep-time...The first thing that God did was create time...time that you and I understand...he didn't work outside of time and then when he was nearly done turn time on and finish things up in six days...he really created time...from there we see a strengthening of this assertion that time has just been created...He called the light day, and the darkness night...then we see a recurring trend of "and there was evening and there was morning"...These days that are mentioned are within the constricts of a day/night rotation of time. I believe that the rest of the Creation telling takes place with God working within those same constricts...in a sense it seems as if God steps into His creation and begins creating...working within time. I know that you're probably thinking that it was written in "poetic" form and as such metaphor is licensed to use, also the fact that it was told to the first man and retold and all that that God may have "told them in terms they would understand"....ok this is another thing that I had trouble with and as such have discussed it with my dad...our theory on this is that...it was told pre-fall...and first I'll show a verse before explaining why this verse:
19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. Genesis 2:19-20Ok, so this theory of why God did not dumb it down into terminology that "adam" could understand is based loosely around this verse...and a fact...but ok...the theory is that pre-fall man had vast knowledge already at his fingertips, not to mention creativity and understanding, he was afterall constantly walking with God and learning and very intelligent...intelligent and creative enough that God brought every creature on earth to him to name...and he did! and to this day every name that adam came up with are surely attached to the animals...though we may have unknowingly called them these names who knows don't care....God said that the names he named them would be their names so I believe that all the names are accurate today...today we are aware that we use only a small portion of our brain, and of all human organs the brain still holds the most mystery... I believe that at the beginning before the fall, man used a much greater portion of their brains and I believe that God felt no need to dumb things down around a creation that He had made perfect....completely perfect, innocent and a little too trusting maybe in some case but perfect even in understanding complex concepts. So I believe that God did not "dumb" things down so that he could understand it. Once again...God said it we should believe it...my dad said that the first step to interpreting scripture is to read it literally first...unless it doesn't make ANY sense literally, unfortunately for evolutionists, in the constricts of language and writing, this portion of scripture makes perfect sense...and in faith...outside of the constricts of language...also makes sense.
Ok, so we also know that God is omniscient right, good, now...picture this...God is able to work within time on everything...lol...k, so God is carefully and masterfully creating a tree, maybe he pauses to sketch a little on his booklet before he starts working at it again, it's a maple tree he sees as he puts the finishing touches on the leaves in his sketch book, he then goes to work putting care into each cell, moving on to give the cells unity and shape, they turn into a root, the roots begin to change as the masters hands travel up the trunk of the tree carefully and diligently as he crafts the bark, that magnificent and protective bark, as he goes up he branches off and builds the first branch, likes it so he makes another and another, decides to make some buds, blows on a few and they open revealing the leaves, he's happy, he stands back and admires his work and notices that it is just turning dawn on the horizon...he worked through the day and night...whew that was quite the job, but it is good... now, you're thinking ok, I can see that, seems to fit God's character...but matt, it's one tree, there are a lot of trees....ok, but he's omniscienct right? SOOOOOOO picture that same picture happening a million times all at the same time....the same God is crafting and designing a million trees in the span of a day, with the same care and diligence that he took on one, and yet he's accomplished millions in the same span because he's God, he's able to work within time with care and patience, remaining true to his character and yet finish great things....
Next the vegetation thing that had me for a loop...you weren't wrong that not everything was created to full height...some were only planted in the created order...some, it was only a seedling that was created and nothing had yet sprung...but the garden, that was different, that was planted fully and full grown in my belief and interpretation...
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created. When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens- 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth [b] and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth [c] and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams [d] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground- 7 the LORD God formed the man [e] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. Genesis 2:1-9Ok, so this really threw me for a loop...it almost made me switch right then...ALMOST, however, the fact that they hadn't yet grown did not mean that they weren't created...it was obviously wasreferredd to as "the sixth day" afterall...God's creating MAN! so how was this possible? How was it possible that plants hadn't sprung, yet man was being created...at first I saw that as plants hadn't been created which only pointed out how I had been looking at creation all this time...I'd been looking at every created thing as being full grown when created...when I realized this and re-read this verse I noticed that they had not sprouted but they were already created...and when God created adam food had to exist so God made all kinds of trees grow...in the garden...this isn't hard to believe is it? That possibly for a garden and a man whom God loved very much, he sped things up a bit? I don't think so, in fact, I think that since he had already put all the time and effort, patience and creativity into creating the plants in the first place...that it doesn't even put this outside of God's character to do such a thing...look at the tree withering immediately in the desert...:
19Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered.
20When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. "How did the fig tree wither so quickly?" they asked.
21Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. 22If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."Matthew 21:19-22Time sped up there, a tree does not under natural circumstances wither that fast (immediately)...AND it was Jesus (who we know is God) that "sped" up time...if Jesus is God and can do that and still hold true to the character of God then it's not out of the character of God to speed up time for a garden so that it's inhabitant(and later inhabitants) would have food to eat and shelter is it?
And lastly the star issue...I cannot answer why it is that we get light from stars that are "billions" of light-years away, even in the theory that the created earth was done in 45million years doesn't line up with the "BILLION light-years" theory, so I would say that possibly the math is wrong...but the creation of the stars is God's:
14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day. Genesis 1:14-19 And in this case, I would see it as a mystery, possibly unsolved, possibly oneday solved, but for now...it's not, and now I regret to say, it's past my bed time and I have class in the morning so, farewell! Adieu! lol Have a good night and I hope this helps.
Matthew Clarke